dual code winter trigger
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I can’t really comment on its authenticity but it’s a neat one. One k98k accessory I haven’t owned yet
I have seen the ofh and mod98 before , but this is the 1st one I have ever seen were the backing plate has marking on it .
Very interesting indeed .
Very interesting indeed .
Jeronimo
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I'm not worried about its authenticity, looks legit to me (mine is an eeu 4).
The '43 date is interesting and early. Officially these were issued from Oct 10th 1944 onward.
They were developed during the winter of '41 - '42, but I've never seen a '42 dated example.
So my guess is that "serious" production must have began in 1943.
According to Richard Law's book there were 6 known manufacturers (maybe more since some are unmarked),
but the numbers must have been very low, and the number of ones issued even lower since you just don't see them....
To me your trigger is more of a curiosity. I don't know of many that survived in good shape coming from the battlefield.
So where would there be a bunch of these laying around to accidentally mismatch the parts?!
- "ofh" (Metall und Metallwarenfabrik from Schmalkalden) marked trigger,
- "btd" Rich. Sieper und Sohn marked cover.
I think it's a "Russian Capture", therefore worthless and you should sell it to me for cheap!!!
I'm not worried about its authenticity, looks legit to me (mine is an eeu 4).
The '43 date is interesting and early. Officially these were issued from Oct 10th 1944 onward.
They were developed during the winter of '41 - '42, but I've never seen a '42 dated example.
So my guess is that "serious" production must have began in 1943.
According to Richard Law's book there were 6 known manufacturers (maybe more since some are unmarked),
but the numbers must have been very low, and the number of ones issued even lower since you just don't see them....
To me your trigger is more of a curiosity. I don't know of many that survived in good shape coming from the battlefield.
So where would there be a bunch of these laying around to accidentally mismatch the parts?!
- "ofh" (Metall und Metallwarenfabrik from Schmalkalden) marked trigger,
- "btd" Rich. Sieper und Sohn marked cover.
I think it's a "Russian Capture", therefore worthless and you should sell it to me for cheap!!!
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Bruce:
Photos of my byf 45 Zf41 with "ofh/btd 43" winter trigger. It has been on the rifle since the 1980s. Rifle is pretty nice, but is factory mismatch. The rifle is #989 and so is the (Gustloff) bolt body. However, the entire bolt shroud/striker a$$'y. is "869" (easy to see, at the time it was built, such an assembly error was not uncommon). Would bet good money if byf 45 #869 still exists in as-issued condition, it is sporting my rifle's bolt rear end #989...
Photos of my byf 45 Zf41 with "ofh/btd 43" winter trigger. It has been on the rifle since the 1980s. Rifle is pretty nice, but is factory mismatch. The rifle is #989 and so is the (Gustloff) bolt body. However, the entire bolt shroud/striker a$$'y. is "869" (easy to see, at the time it was built, such an assembly error was not uncommon). Would bet good money if byf 45 #869 still exists in as-issued condition, it is sporting my rifle's bolt rear end #989...
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That's cool to see another one like the OP. Very interesting variation.
R.W. Parker
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Rifle stock is actually laminated beech/kriegsmodell. Also, should have clarified the entire striker/firing pin/safety/shroud assembly that got screwed into the bolt body is from #869. Got the rifle from a mutual friend in Ohio (sans optic) for $950. at the time. Few other notes: Underside of bolt and rear sight are E/1 accepted. Trigger a$$'y. is "ch" E/140 accepted. O/A condition 99% dual-tone blue/phosphate. BTW, is there a consensus on which way the cover plate should be installed (recessed or raised plate outwards)?
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Not long ago there was an extensive thread on this very subject, but don't think it was on this sub-forum...
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I have a similar n block late Mauser with the same situation, matching bolt body with entire back half mismatched but very close in serial. I suspect the same as you that my parts were assembled to a different rifle.
The winter trigger post: http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?256-Winter-Trigger-and-Manual-Addendum-Insert
Recall seeing some photos of a worker at Oberndorf (maybe in Geschichte der Mauserwerk) sitting at a work bench with a pile of bolt parts he was either inspecting or assembling. One can only imagine after a 10-12 hour day...each day, each week, each month...he must have been seeing spots!