K98k Sniper Identification Help

[Geladen_K98k]

Hello,

I've been collecting milsurp weapons for about 15 years now, however my direct personal experience with German WWII weapons is limited to Lugers. I have the opportunity to buy what is being offered as a K98k Turret Sniper. From my limited knowledge, it appears to have the correct stamps/marks and in the correct places, and the equipment appears to be correct. However, I am not fully convinced.

First, although it appears to have the correct stamps in the correct places, I am not confident enough in my ability to discern a real stamp for a sniper from a fake. Can someone with experience please take a look at the attached pictures and let me know their opinion? I am not experienced enough to know.

Second, the number on the scope ring doesn't match the rifle. However, I am wondering if the non-matching numbers on the scope ring would indicate this was a post war addition of the base, mount, and scope. Also, I am not familiar with how the finish on the mounts should look (smooth, swirls, etc...).

So the main concerns would be, is this a real sniper, and if so, was the equipment installed during the war (and refurbishment being the reason for non matching scope ring number), or after the war (i.e. someone recognized it as a sniper, and added the base and/or mount and/or scope)?

If someone could please provide some guidance, I would appreciate it.


Thank You,
Joe

 

[Absolut]

Do you possibly have some pictures that are not this extreme closeup because simply based on those the rifle is really tough to judge.

 

[Hercules]

I don't like what I see here. Definitely should know the difference between Low and High Turrets to spend money on this stuff.

 

[Geladen_K98k]

Do you possibly have some pictures that are not this extreme closeup because simply based on those the rifle is really tough to judge.

Hi Absolut,

I do have other photos. Is there any specific area of the rifle you need to see? Here are a few that aren't as close up.

 

[Geladen_K98k]

I don't like what I see here. Definitely should know the difference between Low and High Turrets to spend money on this stuff.

Can you enlighten me as to the visual cues that would differentiate a "low" turret and "high" turret, based on the pictures provided? I await your wisdom.

 

[Mike2994]

Joe,
I would advise you have a good look at our picture reference section and search “turret” on the forum. It takes months if not years of research to buy a 98k sniper. I would advise you to do more research before jumping into spending thousands on a sniper. There is a wealth of information contained within the threads here. A good place to start!

 

[Geladen_K98k]

Joe,
I would advise you have a good look at our picture reference section and search “turret” on the forum. It takes months if not years of research to buy a 98k sniper. I would advise you to do more research before jumping into spending thousands on a sniper. There is a wealth of information contained within the threads here. A good place to start!

So is nobody here experienced enough to give their opinion? Or is this how the gatekeeping works for getting into the K98k community?

 

[Mike2994]

So is nobody here experienced enough to give their opinion? Or is this how the gatekeeping works for getting into the K98k community?

How about you do some "...." research before you come in here demanding answers. It’s real easy to find. Not everything will be handed to you in this

Not gatekeeping. Look at photos it is how all of us started…

Edit: There are literally hundreds of threads containing thousands of hours of research, hundreds of years of experience, and some of the foremost sniper experts. You need to help yourself by learning first, then we can help you.

 

[bruce98k]

Base rifle appears correct but scope is unusual in that the SN is overstamped.
Normally when reissued, the rifle serial on the scope has been ground off.

 

[bruce98k]

Gentlemen, keep it civil. Regardless if poster cannot vet an expensive rifle, easy up here.

 

[Geladen_K98k]

How about you do some "...." research before you come in here demanding answers. It’s real easy to find. Not everything will be handed to you in this

Not gatekeeping. Look at photos it is how all of us started…

Edit: There are literally hundreds of threads containing thousands of hours of research, hundreds of years of experience, and some of the foremost sniper experts. You need to help yourself by learning first, then we can help you.

At what point did I demand answers? Did you ever think that maybe I have done research, and that led me here to ask some questions?

As I stated, it appears correct regarding thr base rifle, stamp locations, etc.... I was asking if someone experienced could differentiate a fake stamp from a real one, and whether or not it appears original or put together after the war. Seeking opinions.

 

[Geladen_K98k]

Base rifle appears correct but scope is unusual in that the SN is overstamped.
Normally when reissued, the rifle serial on the scope has been ground off.

I noticed that as well as in pictures I've seen of others that show the previous serial number was ground off before the new serial number was stamped. Makes me lean towards thinking this not having been assembled in its current configuration during the war. However, would like to hear some others give their opinion on that.

 

[mdarnell19]

Joe,
Welcome to the forum. There is a lot to learn here from some great people. So be patient, it takes time and is more complicated than Lugers (if you can believe that).

This rifle will be at auction soon. You are not the only one who has found it. So you are asking people who want to bid on it to help educate you so that you can bid against them. Sorry but many won’t help.

As mentioned, look at the pic sticker threads here and check out my website for more info. www.WWIIGermanSniper.com

Feel free to contact me.

 

[Geladen_K98k]

Joe,
Welcome to the forum. There is a lot to learn here for some great people. So be patient, it takes time and is more complicated than Lugers (if you can believe that).

This rifle will be at auction soon. You are not the only one who has found it. So you are asking people who want to bid on it to help educate you so that you can better bid against. Sorry but many won’t help.

As mentioned, look at the pic sticker threads here and check out my website for more info. www.WWIIGermanSniper.com

Feel free to contact me.

Thanks for the response. I figured others knew about this rifle.

I have visited your website numerous times. Well done. Thanks for taking the time to gather the knowledge together and maintain that website. If any other questions come up, I might message you.

 

[bruce98k]

Good post Matt, thanks.

 

[Absolut]

the pictures are really weird. Either just too far distant or too close up. I‘m having a really hard time to judge the rifle from that.
At first glance doesn‘t look too bad, but the front base appears somewhat odd from the very close up, but could be the pictures. Reserialized parts were pointed out by others already.

 

[Dave Roberts]

the pictures are really weird. Either just too far distant or too close up. I‘m having a really hard time to judge the rifle from that.
At first glance doesn‘t look too bad, but the front base appears somewhat odd from the very close up, but could be the pictures. Reserialized parts were pointed out by others already.

Georg
Are you taking into account that the front base is the transitional type base with narrow corner cuts rather than the later type HT Bases with wide corner cuts , maybe thats why you find the front base to be odd looking ????

 

[Absolut]

Could well be as Said Pictures Are really odd and I‘m looking at these images from my mobile too.

 

[Hercules]

It’s a risk anyway. Maybe vet just like Walnut and put that stock on there. Who knows?

I’m only bidding heavy on optics matching guns from now on anyways.

 

[Mike2994]