Mauser K98 Jubilaum

That is for sure a Norway augmented stock. Butt plate numbering as well as the "8" forward of the magazine on the wood is a Norwegian rework assignment number for who had done the refit. Betting the magazine is likely extended and the wood in that area is hogged out as well. They just used Norway supplied parts in assembly is all.
 
So they basically assembled a rifle out of surplus parts, remarked the receiver, and sold it as a “new” gun? Hmm.
 
fraid youll have to get used to the fact they are new :)

new receiver, bolt, trigger, barrel. they are new. furniture etc surplus, in this rifle's case Norway.
 
Greenmachine said:
fraid youll have to get used to the fact they are new :)

new receiver, bolt, trigger, barrel. they are new. furniture etc surplus, in this rifle's case Norway.
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You’re the only one in this post that believes the parts are new. Other members have chimed in with statements similar to mine, that they used original scrubbed receivers and various surplus parts to assemble them. I mean, look at the stock. If they couldn’t even make or source a new stock, how on earth could they make a new production bolt and receiver? If there is any single part on this gun that is actually new production, my guess is that it’s the barrel.

Could you pull the action out of the stock and post photos of its bottom? The back of the bolt stem?
 
For you - no!

A cursory look at your previous posts tend to centre on being argumentative and one-upmanship. I really have no time for that style of exchange. I came here to show something that is quite rare and companions the G98 they made from the ground up.

Sniping by someone more than 4k miles away is dissapointing.

So....don't believe or like what Mauser did in 1998? I doubt they would care, rather like me.
 
Greenmachine said:
For you - no!
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Because you’re afraid I’m right. Works for me...

Every so often people show up with pictures of a rifle that they just got, and then get horribly offended when people question the rifle. It’s not a personal attack on you, despite what you may want to believe, it’s questioning what the rifle is, and what it isn’t. If you can’t see that distinction then this probably isn’t the forum for you.

Regarding my old posts: what’s funny about that is that you’ll remember me and my words for years to come. I’ll have forgotten you and your rifle in a few days.
 
nirvana said:
Because you’re afraid I’m right. Works for me...

Every so often people show up with pictures of a rifle that they just got, and then get horribly offended when people question the rifle. It’s not a personal attack on you, despite what you may want to believe, it’s questioning what the rifle is, and what it isn’t. If you can’t see that distinction then this probably isn’t the forum for you.

Regarding my old posts: what’s funny about that is that you’ll remember me and my words for years to come. I’ll have forgotten you and your rifle in a few days.
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cheerio!
 
Greenmachine said:
Further update:

Thanks to the encyclopaedic nature of this site, I am now sure the Mauser stock used on my rifle is Norwegian. There is a dowel running horizontal in the bolt cut out which I now know is a Norgie thing. That, plus the butt plate number ruled out and another one applied is also (as mentioned here) a typically seen thing.
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I have been asking for information about my Jubilee K98k and was shared the link to your thread, please check the photos in my thread www.k98kforum.com/threads/requesting-assistance-to-identify-what-is-my-k98k.57127/ and share you opinion. The designation 4AF is the same but the two rifles are quite different in terms of finish. Thanks
 
Roy 7.92 said:
I have been asking for information about my Jubilee K98k and was shared the link to your thread, please check the photos in my thread www.k98kforum.com/threads/requesting-assistance-to-identify-what-is-my-k98k.57127/ and share you opinion. The designation 4AF is the same but the two rifles are quite different in terms of finish. Thanks
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rereading post 14 in the linked thread, falgrunt posted Mauser corp adverts from the time, those clearly say refinished parts & new stock. The wood is probably the easiest to remake, as others are still making replacement stocks for K98ks. Have you tried to get any info from Mauser themselves? or whoever is “Mauser USA”? Seems like they may have some info on total number made, where distributed, serial number range. (though, when I tried to get some machine tool drawings for an ID hone built in 1988 near Hannover in 2014, I was told that they’d been destroyed in a flood, no digital copies made, as it was a one off custom, & low priority for preservation of records)

Folks here know a very great deal about the historic rifles, not as much about more modern iterations.
 
Muncher 1953 said:
rereading post 14 in the linked thread, falgrunt posted Mauser corp adverts from the time, those clearly say refinished parts & new stock. The wood is probably the easiest to remake, as others are still making replacement stocks for K98ks.
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Well, that ad looks to be lying. The rifle shown by the OP of this post is a red glue laminate that has markings indicating that it saw Norwegian service. Now the one in the ad looks to have a new stock, so it’s possible that this one here has been swapped out after it’s sale, but I’m doubtful. I think a good dissection on these will just show a new barrel. Maybe.
 
Muncher 1953 said:
rereading post 14 in the linked thread, falgrunt posted Mauser corp adverts from the time, those clearly say refinished parts & new stock. The wood is probably the easiest to remake, as others are still making replacement stocks for K98ks. Have you tried to get any info from Mauser themselves? or whoever is “Mauser USA”? Seems like they may have some info on total number made, where distributed, serial number range. (though, when I tried to get some machine tool drawings for an ID hone built in 1988 near Hannover in 2014, I was told that they’d been destroyed in a flood, no digital copies made, as it was a one off custom, & low priority for preservation of records)

Folks here know a very great deal about the historic rifles, not as much about more modern iterations.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply
 
nirvana said:
Well, that ad looks to be lying. The rifle shown by the OP of this post is a red glue laminate that has markings indicating that it saw Norwegian service. Now the one in the ad looks to have a new stock, so it’s possible that this one here has been swapped out after it’s sale, but I’m doubtful. I think a good dissection on these will just show a new barrel. Maybe.
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could be. I’m not convinced this rifle left the factory in this configuration. I agree, it’s clearly a Norwegian used stock, but I’m not as doubful as you about it not being switched after original sale. all sorts of shenanigans surround these rifles! From the pics, I think the barreled action, hand guard & TG w/FP are all Jubilaum parts, but the stock, butt plate & bands are all from a Norwegian capture rifle. agreed on the new barrel, & the TG/FP may be recond parts as well, but they look like the B/R, similar quality of finish ( not the same level of finish as the receiver) the butt plate & bands look Norwegianed.
 
I realize this is pretty much a necro-thread but will add that I agree with Muncher. I don't think I looked at the OP's photos back when he posted them. I am calling shenanigans on this Jubiläum rifle. I also think someone stripped off the original stock, handguard, and bands and restocked it in a Norwegian capture stock. The stock should have been the easiest thing for them to recreate. Why would the Mauser factory resort to using a 60+ year old reworked stock? I kind of doubt it would have any mismatched parts so perhaps more than the stock and furniture are wrong.
 
Pisgah said:
I realize this is pretty much a necro-thread but will add that I agree with Muncher. I don't think I looked at the OP's photos back when he posted them. I am calling shenanigans on this Jubiläum rifle. I also think someone stripped off the original stock, handguard, and bands and restocked it in a Norwegian capture stock. To he stock should have been the easiest thing for them to recreate. Why would the Mauser factory resort to using a 60+ year old reworked stock? I kind of doubt it would have any mismatched parts so perhaps more than the stock and furniture are wrong.
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After looking more at the overall pictures, I agree. From the factory these feature a new stock and new barrel, with the remainder being salvaged surplus. The gun in this thread has probably had the swap and more swapped out.
 
It would be a fair comment to say then that my example is a genuine 97/98 manufactured K98. There is no evidence of any original markings in any metalwork and the serial number is 002B with matching bolt which suggests these are all new parts.
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nirvana said:
After looking more at the overall pictures, I agree. From the factory these feature a new stock and new barrel, with the remainder being salvaged surplus. The gun in this thread has probably had the swap and more swapped out.
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I think it's kind of funny that someone likely considered themselves to be "upgrading" the gun by adding period parts, when the reality is it kind of ruins an interesting commercial mauser variant. Me, personally:
Roy 7.92 said:
It would be a fair comment to say then that my example is a genuine 97/98 manufactured K98. There is no evidence of any original markings in any metalwork and the serial number is 002B with matching bolt which suggests these are all new parts.
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This is a neat gun that I'd happily have in my collection as a kind of off-beat endcap. But the OP in this thread is something I'd pass on.
 
I am guessing that whoever swapped the parts on the rifle in this thread did so in order to use the unnumbered parts on some other rifle. It was up to the buyer to realize he was looking at a parts rifle. Unfortunately, GM was busy creating excuses for what his eyes should have recognized as suspicious. With a little skepticism and tighter control of his wallet this thread might not have happened. And I agree that the Jubiläum rifles are cool and would not mind owning one, just not one that someone has stripped for parts.
 
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