Notice of suspension of shipping parts from Norway

bruce98k

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Looks like its going to be awhile for more parts from Norway.

POSTAL SERVICE in Norway will suspend shipping of parcels to the US from friday 23.
Have something to do with the custom tariffs.
The suspention will be lifted in the future but dont know when.

Odd


Just got emailed this from my Norwegian contact who has been sending slings and rods over.
 
I know this'll come across as a lead balloon but this is something everyone saw coming. I'm not personally a supporter of the tariffs; the economy is fundamentally too global nowadays. The tariffs will just hurt us. Especially with how unpredictable the administration is.
 
I know this'll come across as a lead balloon but this is something everyone saw coming. I'm not personally a supporter of the tariffs; the economy is fundamentally too global nowadays. The tariffs will just hurt us. Especially with how unpredictable the administration is.

lol, username fits...

Meh, while the repercussions suck, it also sucks the world thinks it's a one way street that they can hit us with them, and we just suck it up...
 
lol, username fits...

Meh, while the repercussions suck, it also sucks the world thinks it's a one way street that they can hit us with them, and we just suck it up...
Yes, "I-Heart-Open-Borders" was taken, unfortunately. :ROFLMAO:

What are you referencing? The tariffs are solely hurting us. They're not doing anything substantially negative to foreign countries. It's an own goal. I don't know about you, but I learned in high school how complicated and interconnected our modern day global economy is, and how tariffs are famous for backfiring on the imposing country. Are you talking about the wider economic deterioration that we've seen in the US with deindustrialization and loss of manufacturing jobs overseas? Or how other countries are able to fund social programs and take care of their own citizenry so well because we're footing the bill for their defense? I feel like we're probably more in agreement than disagreement on the subject of the US getting screwed economically by foreign countries, just not the details perhaps.
 
Yes, "I-Heart-Open-Borders" was taken, unfortunately. :ROFLMAO:

What are you referencing? The tariffs are solely hurting us. They're not doing anything substantially negative to foreign countries. It's an own goal. I don't know about you, but I learned in high school how complicated and interconnected our modern day global economy is, and how tariffs are famous for backfiring on the imposing country. Are you talking about the wider economic deterioration that we've seen in the US with deindustrialization and loss of manufacturing jobs overseas? Or how other countries are able to fund social programs and take care of their own citizenry so well because we're footing the bill for their defense? I feel like we're probably more in agreement than disagreement on the subject of the US getting screwed economically by foreign countries, just not the details perhaps.

So do you think the only country to have Tariffs is the United States?

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No, I wasn't saying or thinking that. I'm saying that tariffs are known, historically, for restricting trade and driving up prices for the end consumer. Especially arbitrary tariffs imposed with little understanding for the nuances of different trading relationships.



I've seen first hand the explosive and destructive effect this is having on our economy. I don't want to offend anyone here. I just had something to say I thought was relevant. I hope you have a good day.
 
Yes, "I-Heart-Open-Borders" was taken, unfortunately. :ROFLMAO:

What are you referencing? The tariffs are solely hurting us. They're not doing anything substantially negative to foreign countries. It's an own goal. I don't know about you, but I learned in high school how complicated and interconnected our modern day global economy is, and how tariffs are famous for backfiring on the imposing country. Are you talking about the wider economic deterioration that we've seen in the US with deindustrialization and loss of manufacturing jobs overseas? Or how other countries are able to fund social programs and take care of their own citizenry so well because we're footing the bill for their defense? I feel like we're probably more in agreement than disagreement on the subject of the US getting screwed economically by foreign countries, just not the details perhaps.

Well, I was very amused that since in broad terms, zollgrenze means the line or boundary where customs control and checks take place, typically for goods entering or leaving a country, you are the perfect guy to comment on this.

I am going to delete this, I don't want to poop in Mike and Bruces living room...sorry for the thread drift...
 
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No, I wasn't saying or thinking that. I'm saying that tariffs are known, historically, for restricting trade and driving up prices for the end consumer. Especially arbitrary tariffs imposed with little understanding for the nuances of different trading relationships.



I've seen first hand the explosive and destructive effect this is having on our economy. I don't want to offend anyone here. I just had something to say I thought was relevant. I hope you have a good day.

The point of the current round of Tariffs is to create leverage while re-negotiating existing trade deals which are unfavorable. Free trade only benefits global corporations who will seek out the least protected labor force. We have seen what existing trade policy has done to this country the past 30 years. Some temporary discomfort is a small price to pay to stop continued bleeding. Frankly I don't really care if it doubles the price of garbage I buy from Amazon, or makes already unobtainable vehicles priced another 10k out of my price range. I would be happy if I could buy a water pump made right here in the US, for 5x the going price if I knew the bearing wouldn't self destruct in 15,000 miles.
 
Well, I was very amused that since in broad terms, zollgrenze means the line or boundary where customs control and checks take place, typically for goods entering or leaving a country, you are the perfect guy to comment on this.

Look, I'm no economic genius, but to a simpleton like me, it seems when you are in a position where say, China, tariffs the shite out of goods manufactured here, and shipped there basically in order to stifle trade, but we are expected to let their goods flow into here freely, we got the shitty end of the stick.

It is having an effect on other countries though, Rollin Curtis who owns At The Front was just saying how more than a few textile companies overseas that were just getting by, are ending up folding because of the tariffs, they can't afford to ship thier wares here anymore. Which I guess is one way to hurt the countries, putting their businesses out of business. Of course that means At The Front can no longer get materials to make their stuff, so that sucks.

I don't know the answer but continued taking it up the kiester all the time also doesn't seem to be the best course of action.

But you are right, its a hugely complex problem, especially the whole defending the free world thing, yeah, the Socialist NATO countries are living it up because we funded their defense essentially from 1945 and are still funding it. And don't get me started in Ukraine.When someone else is paying all your bills its easy to live it and be a big spender.

In any case what you or I think doesn't really matter, we are ants in the afterbirth, we aren't going to change anything...might as well pull down your pants, and slide on the ice...

I just need to focus on my 3 foot world...
Yes, sorry, I figured that was why my name was funny in this context. I didn't really address that so much in my post; I actually picked it because I read a very fascinating book on the Third Reich's border guards. I feel you'd probably be surprised at some of my positions on border security, but I digress.

I don't contest that our trading relationship and economic position vis a vis China is very bad. I just don't think that reflexive tariffs are going to fix the problem. The problem is much more complicated and fundamental than that. The entire reason China has so much sway in the global economy and the US economy nowadays is because the business class/ownership/whatever you call them started gutting US manufacturing in the 70s. I'm relatively young and I can tell you from conversations with my dad that the domestic economy has been thoroughly hollowed out in the past 50 years. Don't get me started on college tuition, the rising cost of living, or home ownership prices. Implementing tariffs in this situation to fix the problem is like smashing your refrigerator with a bat because your roommate stole all your furniture and sold it. It has absolutely nothing to do with the original problem and it sure as heck isn't going to improve your situation. It was far easier to make a living and climb the economic/social ladder back in the day, and that's just a fact. There are far deeper and less simple issues at play here.

And I was more referencing countries like Germany, Japan, South Korea, etc. Please don't tell me you're pro-Russian on the Ukraine thing, that's just the wrong side to be on, man. If you love freedom you're behind Ukraine 100%. Plus I think spending money rather than American blood to kill Russians is a pretty good deal, honestly.
 
Eh, I'm not going further down this road, lets say I'm not pro either side.

This is why the Politics section got hidden. We don't need infighting here, thats for sure. Not that was what we had going, but this isn't the place for it.

I will say also that it sucks that we won't be getting stuff out of Norway for some time, I know lots of guys have been grabbing much needed stuff from Bruce and his guy(s) there.
 
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Be happy the shipments are getting halted.

I've got a buddy who just got hit with a 45% tariff on an item that was coming in from Switzerland. Turned a $500 purchase into a $750 purchase with zero warning. It can be a nasty surprise when you're not expecting it.

I was a bit worried that the shipment of stock fore-ends that Bruce and Fal Grunt were putting together was going to get caught up in this. Really glad they slipped in under the wire.
 
The point of the current round of Tariffs is to create leverage while re-negotiating existing trade deals which are unfavorable. Free trade only benefits global corporations who will seek out the least protected labor force. We have seen what existing trade policy has done to this country the past 30 years. Some temporary discomfort is a small price to pay to stop continued bleeding. Frankly I don't really care if it doubles the price of garbage I buy from Amazon, or makes already unobtainable vehicles priced another 10k out of my price range. I would be happy if I could buy a water pump made right here in the US, for 5x the going price if I knew the bearing wouldn't self destruct in 15,000 miles.
I agree I wish quality could be bought these days, but IMO, “Made in America” doesn’t mean what it used to, and I’m not sure if ever can again.
 
I wonder how Customs at the airports are handling tarriffs? When I used to travel I was always under the amount before being taxed.
They're not. I just flew internationally last weekend and Atlanta at least was basically zero scrutiny at customs. There was one person just asking if you had any agricultural products, and then the actual customs booth wasn't manned at all. Immigration was just a face scan, and if that didn't work they had someone to eyeball your passport. US passports, don't know what the deal was for the foreign travelers on our flight. I've had more attention paid to me buying beer in a college town. edit: this was coming in on a flight from Mexico, too - not like it was a border hopper from Canada etc.

It was stark enough that my wife and I were wondering if they were under staffed or dealing with some kind of other issue. I know DHS was running into bad budgetary problems earlier in the year, to the point that they were scheduled to run out of money by July. Mostly due to the $100 million that they spent on advertisements celebrating the administration's policies. I don't know if they were topped up or if they're operating under some constraints etc.
 
$100 mil just to brag? What a waste of our dollars. Was that budget from PedoPedro's administration or was it under the Malevolent Orange Entity?

We need to reinstate the Schmidt-Mundt Act (along with Glass Steagall).

Sorry mods for getting political.
 
The $800 deminimus threshold on ALL international packages ends on 8/29. Trump killed it on China (rightly so, IMO) a few months ago. I've read up a lot on this and essentially the carrier will charge you for the tariff prior to you being able to take the package. I've had this happen before on packages from the EU valued more than $800. The tariff will be assessed on the claimed value generally speaking and the tariff rate for the country of origin. Fedex/USPS/UPS sends you notice you owe money and you pay either online or at the counter (depends on carrier).

I suspect this will snarl things up for a while as customs figures it out-- it may also get delayed if there's a court challenge. The Big, Beautiful Bill sunset this deminimus threshold in 2027, Trump just tried to enact sooner.
 
Europeans killed half my eBay sales by making buyers pay a value-added tax which makes my items way too expensive to buy. The US postal service foreign shipping kills sales too. On the other side Shipping to US is reasonable, from China it is less than domestic rates in the US. Too damn many bureaucrats making big bucks and doing nothing to add to their economies, just sucking up other people’s productivity.
 
I know this'll come across as a lead balloon but this is something everyone saw coming. I'm not personally a supporter of the tariffs; the economy is fundamentally too global nowadays. The tariffs will just hurt us. Especially with how unpredictable the administration is.

The tariffs have been hurting us (as in U.S.) for many years because they harmed our exports and industry because they were levied against us yet not reciprocated by us.
 
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